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#1911 2008-01-26 23:52 GMT-5 hours    
Hi All,
Having just sold my old Minolta film camera and lenses, I'm ready for a new DSLR. I know the lenses could be used on a digital camera but the 200mm was a bit small IMO and I got a really good price for it on eBay which I can use towards a new camera. So, what would be a good start for someone switching from film cameras to a digital SLR? Which body and which lenses should I be looking it? The air show season will start in a couple of months and I want to be ready. Please let me know your recommendations. TIA.

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#1917 2008-01-27 16:16 GMT-5 hours    
How much are we working with?

I have a Nikon D40 with a 200mm lens and I love it! A buddy of mine has a 50mm lens that rocks. I am currently saving my pennies for such a lens.

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#1918 2008-01-27 19:03 GMT-5 hours    
Well, I was thinking $1500 max. I've been looking at the Canon packages on eBay and they look like a pretty good deal, but are they? The Canon 20D, 30D, and 40D look attractive. Anybody using those? Here's a package that includes a couple of lenses and other things. I'm not a big fan of zoom lenses, but not bad for the price in my opinion. Anyone buy these packages before?

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#1920 2008-01-28 13:15 GMT-5 hours    
Well I'm using a 20D and a 40D Ray.

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#1924 2008-01-28 19:46 GMT-5 hours    
I think $1500.00 is about right, especially with a couple of lenses included. I did not want to spend too much in case I turned out to be a really lousy photographer. Plus, my wife and I had a baby in September and I wanted to get a really nice camera that offered no shutter lag. Perhaps some spotting too, but there are too many aircraft that close for me...

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#1925 2008-01-28 19:47 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Ray,
I think in the packages mentioned by you the lenses are not included. And if you want to have good quality glass you will even have difficulties to get a wide angle and a tele lens for ~1500$.
However, you can get a reasonable starter equipment for that money (up to a 300mm lens).

But before you buy a camera, go to shop and take it in your hands. The touch and feel is very important imo!

Regards and have a good choice!

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#1926 2008-01-28 20:24 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks guys for all the input.

Andreas, it looks like they do include the lenses, etc. that's what kind of surprised me as well. That one package has Tamron lenses but I've seen them with Canon lenses as well. I think it was a 20D, 2 lenses, tripod, etc. etc. going for around $1200. You're right though, it is best to hold the camera and play around with it a bit and I will certainly do that.

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#1941 2008-01-31 01:16 GMT-5 hours    
Ray,

I think most people agree that good glass is paramount, so why not checkout the new Canon Digital Rebel XSi (450D) that is about to be released. At $800 you can then save the rest of the money for some good glass.

I think you'll be disappointed in the bundle you mention not because of the camera but because of the lenses. I'd definitely recommend the 40D but at $1200 it doesn't leave much left over for a telephoto lens.

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#1942 2008-01-31 04:02 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Nathan,
Yes, of course, I remember you with Mike and Kevin. Haven't heard from Mike in a while...

I agree too, a good lens is probably more important than the camera. I stopped by Wolf Camera after work and got to play around with the 40D for a few minutes. It's a great camera and feels good to hold. The Nikon felt a little too small in my hands. Their price was $1200 for the body and $1400 if I wanted the kit from Canon that includes a small zoom lens. Quite expensive in my mind. I've been looking around online and found a couple of shops that are selling the 40d body for $499: http://www.shopcartusa.com/P_Canon_EOS_40D_Digital_Camera_1901B004/PT_Y/?ic_campID=98 You can find the links on that page. Should I believe these? Sounds like a good deal. Then I can spend a good amount on a good lens of two.

Here's another good one I found: http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=902252&up=902244 then I can buy a Canon 100-400 L-series lens separately. Good deal?

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#1946 2008-01-31 18:44 GMT-5 hours    
The saying, if it seems too good to be true it usually is, holds true here. Be very very careful of many of these so called budget camera places as they will try as many tricks as they can to get you, some include literally shipping the body only, with no battery, charger etc. Or they try to get you to buy items you don't want etc.

Check out sites like http://www.resellerratings.com/ and http://welcome.bbb.org/ to see what others really think.

I can certainly recommend B&H in NY and Samy's in CA for web orders and I hear adorama is good too.

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#1948 2008-01-31 19:05 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks for the links Nathan. I will check them out soon.

A couple of those online discounter have 800 numbers so I'll be sure to give them a call before ordering, if I do at all. They seem to have good reviews from the customers. The only thing I was worried about was that they might ship me a refurbished one which I really don't want, but they claim it to be new so we'll see. I've dealt with B&H before and yes they are good, although that was a long, long time ago. Thanks again.

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#1949 2008-02-01 03:54 GMT-5 hours    
A few comments that, taken together, might add up to $0.02.

First, be very wary of online camera sellers. I trust B&H, and I've heard good things about Adorama. After those two, the list is very short. Certainly, a new 40D being offered for $400 is a scam.

Don't buy packages or kits, because you're going to be saddled with poor-quality, mass production lenses. It's false economy.

Right now, DSLR bodies are evolving much faster than lenses (and dropping quickly in price, too). You should buy one of the newer starter bodies in your price range, like the Rebel XTi, Rebel XSi, Nikon D40, Nikon D60, or Nikon D80 so you'll have up-to-date technology. Then use review sites like Fred Miranda, Pop Photo and Photozone.de to identify the best lenses within your budget.

Finally, if you'll tolerate the plug, you can ask other aviation photographers about their equipment preferences here.

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#1952 2008-02-01 19:18 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Mark,
Definitely worth more than 2 cents bud, thanks for the advice. Looks like I have some more research to do.

Would be nice to hear from the world-class photographers here as well regarding their equipment preferences.

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#1977 2008-02-05 22:14 GMT-5 hours    
Ray,

The cheapest I have found from reliable vendors is at newegg.com ($1100 body only).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=40D

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#2058 2008-02-15 14:52 GMT-5 hours    
Hi, Ray!
My girlfriend owns a 30D and is completely satisfied with it! She has the 17-75 and the 75-300IS lenses. The 75-300 is ways better than my 55-200.

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#2062 2008-02-15 17:14 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks guys, for all the info, links, etc. I've been a little side tracked lately with the server move and all, but will get back to the topic at hand soon.

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#2078 2008-02-19 06:24 GMT-5 hours    
A fun thing with Canon to consider is its ability to use M42 lenses, this was for me very important (no use in throwing away good glass). It only takes a 20 dollar ring to do this.

Having said that, I went for Canon years ago, mainly because I liked the feel of the camera and because of the enormous amount of lenses available. Both from Canon and third party. Esspecially if you want a longer lens.
This was the tiebreaker for me.

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#3423 2008-12-28 18:12 GMT-5 hours    
I know it's about 9 or 10 months later. But just wondering if you ever got your DSLR Ray? With the holiday shopping season behind us there should be some great deals right now. I've seen Nikon D90's for 999 and for 1299 with 18-135mm VR. (canadian prices)

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#3427 2008-12-29 00:27 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Mario,
Thanks for asking, unfortunately the answer is no. I blew the money on a new iMac and a Macbook laptop. Maybe in the new year I can get one, but right now my bank account needs a stimulus package or some kind of a bailout money. I think a billion dollars should be enough for now. I don't want to get too greedy.

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#3432 2008-12-29 15:23 GMT-5 hours    
I've used only Canon since 1973. Never a problem. Even left one out in the rain over night. It still works to today. Go with Canon, the camera preferred by the pros.
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#5071 2010-12-26 09:40 GMT-5 hours    
I'm thinking of buying a Sony A850 0r A900. How much of an advantage is the full frame sensor? This Dinosaur is finally going digital. I sent my last Kodachrome rolls in last week.

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